When Millenials (who are church outsiders) look into the church and see a building, a program, thought process, an approach to its neighbours, a dress code, technology that looks like it hasn't changed since before they were even born, they honestly think – that place isn't for me. That's not a place that understands the current culture. That's not a place that understands what I'm going through.

There is a culture of competition between churches today that's unhealthy. The idea that if we only had the resources or the staff or the building the church down the street has, we could compete. Please, don’t think like that.